The Difference Between Co-ops and Condos

Coops & Condos

Co-ops (short for "cooperatives") are apartment buildings owned by a corporation. Technically they are not classed as real estate. Individual tenants do not own their apartments in exactly the same way that they would a single family home, Instead they own shares of stock in the corporation. These shares are apportioned based on the size and floor level of their apartment, and ownership is established by a stock certificate and occupancy is governed by a "proprietary lease". The corporation pays all real estate taxes, maintenance expenses, and the underlying mortgage on the building. The amount a shareholder pays towards these expenses is directly related to the number of shares she owns in the corporation.

Today’s coops own the entire building, rather than individual apartments. Boards have the right to reject any borrower who they think does not qualify, however they wish to define qualification.

· A great deal of coops were built as rental buildings

· When a landlord made the decision to sell off the units, the most common way to do so was convert to coops

· Income: some coops have rental income coming from retail or commercial spaces on the ground floor that the coop can take advantage of.

Condos

The first thing to know before buying is that a condominium is real estate, real property – just like a home or other piece of property – and laws that apply to real estate sales, taxes and financing generally apply to condos.

In New York City, each condo apartment in a multi-unit building has its own tax lot and block number. Areas not part of a particular apartment – like the lobby, hallways, laundry and utility rooms, outdoor areas and the land the building is on – are called common elements.

Typically, each unit owner owns a specified percentage of the common elements. As a result, the entire property is owned, collectively, by the unit owners. In addition, the unit owners collectively pay the building’s operating expenses through monthly common charges. Each owner is responsible for his or her own real estate taxes.

When a building is converted to or constructed as a condo, the owner or developer must file an offering plan with the state attorney general’s office giving the details of how the condo will operate. Other documents that establish how the condo is run include the condominium declaration and bylaws. The declaration will specify the percentage of common elements assigned to each apartment. It will also contain details of just where an apartment ends and the common elements begin.

In some condominiums, the unit owner owns the surface of the interior walls and the space that surface encloses. In others, the unit extends to the center of the demising walls – that is, walls separating two apartments — and to the center of any exterior walls.

Under the bylaws, condos are run by a board of managers elected by the unit owners at an annual meeting. In some condos, each unit gets one vote; in others, the number of votes may be determined by the percentage of common elements owned, which is determined by a variety of factors, including the size of the apartment, its value or its location. (Common charges are typically based on the percentage of common elements owned.)

A significant issue in recent years was whether board members can be held personally liable for good-faith actions in performing their duties. At least one appeals court has ruled, basically, that they cannot. Issues that have not been definitively resolved by the courts include whether a condo association can impose a "flip tax" – a fee paid by the seller when an apartment is sold.

Advantages/Disadvantages:

· Why condo over coop? Investment; parents buying for children; independent contractors; foreign buyers; celebrities

o Financing is more flexible

o The application process is simple. No interview.

o Greater flexibility in sub-leasing the unit.

o Monthly combined common charges and RE taxes in a condo are generally less than a coops monthly maintenance charges, resulting in a higher purchase price.

· Why coop over condo? People who want to live around owners – less transient. Sharing ownership .

o Coops are typically less expensive than condos because they are more restrictive of who can buy into the building, usually 10- 20% less expensive.

o The tenant-owners elect a Board of Directors, whose responsibility is to meet, interview and "approve" or "disapprove" a prospective owner, thereby protecting the present tenants' interest by approving only qualified candidates.

o Cooperative ownership offers a more stable community environment. Residents tend to stay for longer periods of time, and few co-ops allow extensive subletting, preferring a high owner-occupancy.

o A large portion of the monthly maintenance fee paid by each shareholder is tax deductible, i.e., the pro-rata share of the corporation's real estate taxes, as well as the building's underlying mortgage payment.

Disadvantages:

Coop:

o The board often requires a large cash down payment. Usually prospective purchasers are required to put 25% down. Some co-ops may require more. Many of the most exclusive buildings permit no financing at all.

o Most co-ops prefer owners to be occupants; therefore subletting an apartment may be difficult. Each co-op board has its own set of rules, but generally speaking, subletting will have to be approved by the board, and permission is usually granted for no more than 2 years. Some co-ops, however, are more flexible and are known as "easy boards".

o Almost all renovations to individual apartments will have to be approved by the board.

o The co-op application process is quite lengthy and may require flexibility in terms of occupancy date.

o Renting in a co-op building is referred to as subleasing. Prospective tenants (sub-leasors) are subject to the same application process as someone wishing to become a shareholder.

Condo:

· Condos are typically more expensive because they are less restrictive in areas such as the buyers’ finances, renting the apartment and approval to complete renovations

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POINTERS TO HELP YOU PASS A BOARD INTERVIEW

  1. Being invited to the interview is a good sign.  The interview is the board’s opportunity to meet you and ask specific questions about your application.  The style of the interview can range from an informal gathering of board members in an apartment to a formal interview with board members lined up at a table with you in the hot seat.

  2. Dress up and be prompt.  In terms of dress and promptness only, see tip 6 below, a board interview should be treated no differently than a professional job interview.

  3. Prepare for a lack of privacy.  The board has great latitude in the kinds of questions it can ask, be prepared for this and do not avoid answers to personal questions, or be angered by this intrusion.

  4. Know your application.  You should be able to quickly and concisely answer any questions asked regarding your application, preferably without having to look at your application.  However, if necessary, bring a copy along.

  5. Couples should decide in advance who will answer what types of questions.  For example, you may agree to answer all financial questions and your spouse will answer all other questions.  Avoid discussing answers to questions with your spouse in front of the board.

  6. Unlike a job interview, do not try to sell yourself.  Only answer questions asked and let the board run the show.  Boards rarely turn down applications for being too boring.

  7. Never volunteer information or engage in unsolicited conversations except for basic cordial remarks and greetings.

  8. Do not ask questions.  Questions can often unintentionally convey negative information to the board.  For example:  “Do you have any plans to renovate the lobby?”is the kind of seemingly innocent question likely to offend the board member who was in charge of the last lobby renovation.  If you have any additional questions you can direct them to your real estate broker or your attorney.

  9. A short interview is better than a long one.  While there are no hard and fast rules, a short cordial interview with a few board questions and remarks is often the best co-op board interview.

Timeline Guide for Purchasing

Here are the steps you’ll take to find and close the apartment of your dreams.

Speak with a mortgage broker, bank, or financial advisor

Typical time frame: 1 – 3 weeks

It is important to have an idea of how much you can spend on an apartment prior to beginning your search. Keep in mind that financial requirements vary from building to building and bank to bank. In today’s mortgage market, it is strongly recommended that you get pre–approval for financing by a mortgage broker ASAP. Your mortgage broker will compare, analyze and help you determine what best meets your needs. As you begin your search you can also start to provide your mortgage broker with required documentation so you are ready to move quickly once you find a property to purchase.

Hire a real estate lawyer

Typical time frame: 3 days – 2 weeks

Every one has a cousin or friend that is a lawyer, but when deciding on which lawyer to use, we highly recommend lawyers that specialize in real estate and in your local area, they are truly the experts.

Finding an apartment

Typical time frame: 1 – 3 months

Depending on what you are looking for, it might take one day or one year to find an apartment. The average person sees 20 to 25 apartments before deciding on the perfect one. If you are serious about an apartment, your real estate agent will get the building’s financial statement so you and your lawyer can determine if the building is financially solid.

Negotiating on the apartment

Typical time frame: 2 days – 2 weeks

Ask your agent to inquire about assessments, fixtures, window replacements, air conditioners, rugs, floors, curtains, appliances, working fireplaces, washer/dryers, etc. Most homes are sold “as is” unless otherwise noted, appliances are usually included, where fixtures, window treatments, etc., are usually not, but always ask.

Signing a contract

Typical time frame: 3 – 10 days

Generally, in a sales transaction, both the buyer and the seller are represented by a New York City real estate attorney. The seller’s attorney draws up the contract for the buyer’s attorney and upon receipt, the buyer’s attorney performs a “due diligence”— reading minutes, reviewing financial statements of the building, etc. Once all terms are agreed to, the buyer signs the contract and returns it to the seller’s attorney along with typically a 10% deposit. Once the deposit is received, the seller executes the contract. Possible contingencies may include financing, Board approval, and closing dates. A contract is binding only after both parties have signed it and value has been rendered (e.g. escrow monies).

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